Liquid steel

I would like to ask you for any possibilities of application of this effect. I’m a metallurgist and would like to know if will be also detected this phenomenon in a liquid steel? The liquid steel is a solution of solids in a liquid, so I think; the sound could influence this solution. Even if the temperature of this solution is about 1500 -1600°C. So I would like to ask you for your opinion.

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  • Thank you for the note on the acoustic levitator. That is very helpful and has answered some questions in my own research. Good recommendation :-)

    --Jodina
  • Are your particles acting as the reflector?...I dont know.
    This was an article that came to mind when I read your reply:

    Standing sound waves have defined nodes, or areas of minimum pressure, and antinodes, or areas of maximum pressure. A standing wave's nodes are at the heart of acoustic levitation. Imagine a river with rocks and rapids. The water is calm in some parts of the river, and it is turbulent in others. Floating debris and foam collect in calm portions of the river. In order for a floating object to stay still in a fast-moving part of the river, it would need to be anchored or propelled against the flow of the water. This is essentially what an acoustic levitator does, using sound moving through a gas in place of water.
    http://science.howstuffworks.com/acoustic-levitation1.htm

    Check out Austrian Viktor Schauberger work:
    http://rexresearch.com/schaub/fr1057576.pdf
    http://www.schauberger.co.uk/home.html

    This dude is interesting:
    http://www.hutchisoneffect.ca/index.html
  • Hello Liquid Steel,
    Research Gallium/Indium..not sure about the order of toxicity but it could be great medium to transduce.
    Atomic Number: 31
    Atomic Radius: 122.1 pm
    Atomic Symbol: Ga
    Melting Point: 29.76 C
    Atomic Weight: 69.72
    Boiling Point: 2204 C
    Electron Configuration: [Ar]4s23d104p1
    Oxidation States: 3

    Gabriel Kelemen work may interest you.

    Search this guy... he was pretty "crazy".
    George Van Tassel, creator of the Integratron, was a legendary figure, an aeronautical engineer and test pilot who worked for Lockheed, Douglas Aircraft and alongside Howard Hughes at Hughes Aviation. Love his story its a trip for sure.

    And of course these "crazy" guys could be Very Important points of interest as well:
    Gabriel Kron
    Iztak Bentov

    Sat Nam
    Jer
  • I have not had any experience with liquid steel and cymatics, though I use steel sheets in my own cyamtics art works. Are you thinking of experimenting with this yourself? If so, I would be very interested in your results and would offer any help I can as far as cyamtics experience. The trick would be how to get the sound into the liquid steel at that temperature; a problem of logistics I think. But I don't see any reason that steel wouldn't respond to sound in a similar way to water.

    In "Cymatics" Hans Jenny noted (and has some photos documenting) the effect of sound on smoke or cloudy vapors, essentially creating a "sound sculpture" with cymatics in 3 dimensions; and mentions that he would like to see more experimentation with cymatics on substances like this. But I think that is as far as he took it. See what you can do!

    --Jodina
    • Speaking of clouds, We've been experiencing small clouds of dust that collect in certain areas of our plates and hover there. Is this normal? Is it mentioned in Hans Jenny's book?

      Jodina Meehan said:
      I have not had any experience with liquid steel and cymatics, though I use steel sheets in my own cyamtics art works. Are you thinking of experimenting with this yourself? If so, I would be very interested in your results and would offer any help I can as far as cyamtics experience. The trick would be how to get the sound into the liquid steel at that temperature; a problem of logistics I think. But I don't see any reason that steel wouldn't respond to sound in a similar way to water.In "Cymatics" Hans Jenny noted (and has some photos documenting) the effect of sound on smoke or cloudy vapors, essentially creating a "sound sculpture" with cymatics in 3 dimensions; and mentions that he would like to see more experimentation with cymatics on substances like this. But I think that is as far as he took it. See what you can do!

      --Jodina
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